A ki blast from Broly could effortlessly blow up a planet equivalent or greater than the Earth. Secondly, irrespective of whether Broly is stronger than Beerus, his power has been compared to a God of destruction. Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 Mods: 2019-10-17: STRONGEST NEW GOKU SSJ ANGEL MUI HEAVEN FORM EVER! Play As Spyro 3 Characters In ALL Games! To be honest, the fact goku thinks broly may be stonger then Beerus yet we know for a fact Jiren is way stronger then any god of destruction should solve this. Plus MUI has better feats in general. I will go with Mui goku because before he went Ultra Instinct. The gap between Gogeta Blue and Goku Blue is as vast as the one between SSJ Goku and SSJ Gogeta (from Janemba's movie) ratio wise, so it's an abyss we are talking about. Cumber stomps because even his restrained base form is stated by Goku to be stronger than Jiren who's stronger than a G.O.D even before he broke his limits while Gogeta Blue is stronger than a dude whose possibly stronger than a G.O.D plus the forms are nerfed in the Broly Movie so the possible multiplier for Gogeta's UI wouldn't be as strong as Goku's from the Prison Planet Saga or the Universal Conflict Arc Amicus. This Powered up form may be 2 to 10 times stronger than before. I honestly have no idea, they are both really strong, but I do know it would be a good fight. Goku has gotten a whole lot stronger since the start of Super though and even if we assume that his base form is still behind his GT self, he can't be too far behind at this point. Add this together for the fusion (20x) and multiply it by "tens" of times and we have a multiplier range for a SSJ4 fusion of 400-2000x SSJ3. If this was kaioken x 20 SSB Goku vs SSJ4 Gogeta, I do think we'd have a very good fight. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. It solos everything espcally MUGENverse and your computer.Anyways,this page is a huge downplay compare to the true Mathrus And even worse,there have a 2 Omegadownplayed version of it:https://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Mathrus https://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Mathrus_(M.U.G.E.N) MUI could beat Jiren. STRONGEST NEW VEGETA OOZARU MUI HEAVEN FORM! While we don't know where exactly Gogeta stands in power here, we know for a fact that he was pushed to SSJBlue by Broly, who might be stronger than Beerus, according to Goku, who never saw Beerus at 100%, so he is most likely closer in power to Broly than to … Rank the most powerful character in dragon ball. And yet SSB Goku managed not to be fodderized by Jiren later on. I'd say it's pretty clear that Jiren is stronger than Broly (fights off Goku, Vegeta and 17 at their strongest without going full power and when it's mentioned that he's above GoD level it's less nebulous than Goku's guess about Broly's power). Yea you see Goku and Vegeta training with Whis, but it doesn't look any different than basic training they've always done. So in this hypothetical, SSJG is 80x SSJ3 as an absolutely unrealistic bare minimum. In both the extended edition of the BoG movie and the BoG arc of Super, Goku indicates that he feels that even fusing with Vegeta wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus, and that Super Saiyan God, when he obtained it, is a level of power beyond anything he believed could have existed. There is no such thing as "base fusion" > indididuals max. LB Jiren, while arguably stronger than MUI Goku, lost to MUI Goku due to Goku's skill in UI. 2020.dec.20. So you guys think current MUI Goku one shots Jiren? shaneherald 3 mo 15 d 3 mo 15 d Dragon Ball Super Power Levels are all fan made and original, based on official power levels from the databooks, manga, anime and the daizenshuu guidebooks. Spyro Reignited Trilogy MOD: 2019-10-14: STRONGER THAN OMNI KING! Me personally don’t think MUI goku is stronger than SSB Gogeta, every form of gogeta is quadrupled wat goku is in every way. Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku VS Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta - Who is stronger? Goku compared Broly to 'possibly' being stronger than Beerus. NEW DOPEST SKILLS & MOVESET! You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Then he has his SSG form which is a lot stronger than SSJ3, then SSB, then kaioken or complete SSB (if you follow the manga instead) and then UI which is massively stronger on top of it. Mui Goku, ssjbe vegeta, fp beerus, gogeta blue, gt gogeta, xeno vegito, vegito blue, lssj broly, fused zamasu, ssj3 Kefla, hit, and FP Jiren. SSJB Gogeta >> LSSJ Broly >>>> SSJ Gogeta >/= SSJ Broly (adapted) >>>> Base Gogeta > SSJ Broly (Initial) >>> Ikari Broly >/< SSJB Goku. Golden freeza gets stomped by anyone on beerus's level. SO Mui goku will win. s-e-e-k-e-r 193 total posts: 1712 since: Jun 2017. yeah, and Broly and Gogeta fighting together against MUI Goku would lose. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 3 Can Shatter Dimensions 10/17/2019. According to an official source, the animanga of the Goku Jr. anime special, Super Saiyan Vegetto, during the Buu arc, possibly could have been stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Mui Goku, ssjbe vegeta, fp beerus, gogeta blue, gt gogeta, xeno vegito, vegito blue, lssj broly, fused zamasu, ssj3 Kefla, hit, and FP Jiren. Current Base Gogeta would be stronger than UI Goku.. Dragon Ball Super Special 109 and 110 has been released and debuted Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren! Now SSJB is a simple 50x multiplier. That was more of a shock statement made to drum up conversation. It really comes down to what a fusion is supposed to be - it is supposed to be much stronger than it's component members together. And we know SSJG is easily stronger than this. Dragon Ball Super: Broly's official introduction of Gogeta into canon has fans once again discussing the pros and cons of Dragon Ball's fusion methods. Base Kefla also made SSG Goku look pathetic in the ToP. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Becoming 80,000x stronger than SSJ3 (and 40x stronger than the max for SSJ4 Gogeta). Okay, so this isn’t exactly a reason why Gogeta is stronger than Vegito, but it should be. level 1 s-e-e-k-e-r 193 total posts: 1712 since: Jun 2017. Fusion is now stated as their combined powers multiplied "tens" of times. The strongest existence that come from M.U.G.E.N.verse. So numerically, what does this mean? Is Gogeta as strong as Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku and Awakened Jiren from the Tournament of power? Jiren just glare at the spirit bomb and make into the black hole. Gogeta Blue >> LB Jiren > FPSS Broly = MUI Goku. And finally, MUI is again clearly stronger, and again we'll pick the utter minimum increase of 2x. Jun 4, 19 at 9:29am (PST) ^ re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue: quote John West. The only way then that Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta would be able to stand any real chance against Goku in the completed Ultra Instinct form is if the difference between Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Super Saiyan 4 Goku was greater than the difference between UI Goku (ToP) and Super Saiyan God Goku (BoG), and that's just not likely. ... SSJB Gogeta > MUI Goku > LB Jiren > LSSJ Broly > MUI Goku (Initial) > Jiren > Beerus . Ending with … You can't beat what you can't touch. Goku surpassed Jiren with UI, which is stronger than a god that is stronger than Beerus. add that LSSJ Broly still kinda kept up a bit against SSJB Gogeta (plus Gogeta felt the need to use SSJB), meaning he's above SSJG Gogeta whose SSJ Form is way … I honestly think that Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance. Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super) Gogeta Db Super > Vegito > Superman show 8 replies . And i disagree, Broly has way more stamina and strength than Jiren, in the movie "DB Super: Broly" Goku and Vegeta failed to do the Fusion 2 times, so they lost 1h. stop the jiren dickriding. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. 269 477 Megtekintés. Check out the Gogeta SS4 reveal and Super Baby 2 gameplay trailer for Dragon Ball FIGHTERZ! nonsense dude, SSJ3 gets beaten by MUI Goku (keep this in mind). Letöltés. Base Gogeta would be > SSJBE Vegeta and SSJBE Vegeta is > Omen MUI however is unknown but it wouldn't matter reallyGoku can tap into MUI at will now. IGN. Before creation must come destruction - Beerus, A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta. Couldn't find this with a search so here we go. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. That becomes 4000x stronger than SSJ3 (and already 2x the max for SSJ4 Gogeta). ... FP ssj Broly is far above ssj gogeta, but just probably above beerus. The only scaling for Beerus and Jiren is a magazine scan that claims MUI Goku is 'possibly' stronger than Beerus. And the difference between him and UI Goku isn't much as UI Goku was stated to "maybe" surpass Beerus. Gogeta was pushed to blue by a guy who might be stronger than Beerus according to Goku who hasn't even seen Beerus's full power yet. EPIC SKILLS & MOVESET! If we take use SSJ3 as our baseline, then two SSJ4 characters have 10x multipliers each. How is SS Gogeta stronger than MUI Goku? This scales Gohan and Dabura to 4000 Killi, which makes Goku and Vegeta each 1.5x stronger than Gohan. But then you find out it's actually stronger than SSJG, making it useless immediately. So compared to Current Goku, Moro's strongest forms, and Beerus is Jiren...... SSJ Goku on Namek vs a hypothetical Kaioken x 50 Goku for the Freeza fight. Seriously! Super Baby2 arrives January 15th, 2021 with Gogeta SS4 coming soon! Blaze. Current Base Gogeta would be stronger than UI Goku.. Mastered Ultra Instinct can't loose. so if SSJ Broly is already within that range of strength. The only scaling for Beerus and Jiren is a magazine scan that claims MUI Goku is 'possibly' stronger than Beerus. And this was right in the beginning when he was still learning how to harness the power, it got considerably stronger after that. Pure Buu, being about equal to SS3 Goku in strength, meant he was 400 times stronger than Goku putting his all into their struggle. This is a hard stomp. Because of this, we can conclude that Super Saiyan God > Super Saiyan Vegetto (since Goku would have known Vegetto's limits and power) > = Super Saiyan 4 Goku. Again, just to showcase things, we'll choose the barest minimum increase of 2x, making it 160,000 stronger than SSJ3 (and 80x stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta). © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. and if Mui was really stronger than gogeta how did 17 freeza and goku in base form fight jiren then?thinking of goku and vegeta having a PL of at least 20.000. fused that would mean they have 400.000.000. suggesting 17 and freeza have maybe a PL of 15.000 they would have 40.000 together. And Broly was fighting Golden Frieza in that time spent in Legendary Super Saiyan Form, and still managed to keep up with Gogeta Red, who is stronger or equal than Goku MUI, who is stronger or equal than Jiren. Retaining the memories of both Goku and Vegeta, Vegito is a more cocky, vindictive character than Goku, with a personality closer to Vegeta's. And yes, hype statements are made before every fight in DBZ. el chapo guzman. Since Goku and Vegeta are both stated much stronger than Gohan, and their SS2 powers would equal 6000 killi, the lowest end of scale is the most accurate. That makes him closely more than 100 times stronger than FPPSSB Goku. After a brief too-fast-to-see-statue-fight, MUI Goku … this would include Jiren at his peak, Jiren at his peak is undoubtedly UI level, with MUI Goku being only slightly stronger than him. Ssj gogeta is stronger than regular ssj broly. Ssb goku vs Base Gogeta would go like episode 109-110. Just how strong is Goku's new form and state?! Vegito easily overpowers Majin Buu, even after the monster has absorbed the powers and abilities of Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks and Goten, but defuses after allowing himself to be absorbed to rescue his sons. Jiren is stronger than MUI Goku. That makes them more or less equal in strength. I dont think SSj4 Gogeta would even beat SSB Goku, maybe even SSG Goku. A discussion-dedicated Dragon Ball subreddit. The reasons being, for one, Goku and Vegeta have gotten significantly stronger throughout the T.O.P, in comparison to the Future Trunks arc. Using more realistic values takes it from 160x SSJ4 Gogeta to tens of thousands of times stronger. Vegito is cool in his own right and we don’t deny his fancy earrings, but come on, take a look at the truly supreme being: That sick jacket (which only appears on those who successfully pulled off the fusion dance, by the way) that extra spiky hair, and that stoic look. Goget has to be weaker than Jiren, or Goku and Vegeta would have tried it on him. This is a hard stomp. Gogeta Blue is definitely stronger. Broly is even able to overpower Golden Frieza and fight on equals with Super Saiyan Gogeta who is multiple times stronger than both Goku and Vegeta. and Gogeta is too slow to touch MUI Goku. Vegeta is one of the main characters from Dragon Ball and he's one of Universe 7's strongest Saiyans. Goku at MUI casually toys with Jiren, so he's not unlimited. The answer is pretty clear. That being said, the fact that Dai Kaioshin was stronger than Post-ToP SSJB Goku and SSJBE Vegeta is still really funny to me. It happens. DB Xenoverse 2 Mods: 2019-10-15: CHARACTER SWAP! Jiren is at least stronger than Belmod. How is SS Gogeta stronger than MUI Goku? MUI defeated Jiren, who is stronger than someone stronger than Beerus, according to Whis, who saw Beerus at his fullest. Now KK20 is 20x stronger again. Are Super Saiyan Full Power Broly and Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta stronger than Beerus? broly was stated more powerful. And finally, MUI is again clearly stronger, and again we'll pick the utter minimum increase of 2x. The only reason Gogeta is even "possibly" 2-C is because he is faaar stronger than Legendary Broly. Do you think SSJ4 Gogeta or MUI Goku would win? Even if goku was stronger than goten in the buu saga, goten would win. this means a mere SSJ Broly is 50x stronger than someone who's much stronger than SSJB Goku. Goku and Vegeta should both be at that level. Whether he is stronger than Beerus or not is still up in the air, but he is at the upper GoD level. Now when Base Gogeta appeared he effortlessly dodged all attacks of powered up SSJ Broly, broly wasn't able to catch Gogeta by speed. But I'm not sure how Jiren stacks up to Gogeta. Ending with 320,000x SSJ3 (and 160x stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta). Vegeta at blue-er-er is beyond GoD level. Like Goku, Vegeta is capable of using Super Saiyan Blue to raise his powers to astronomically high levels.Furthermore, Vegeta can even go a step beyond that with Blue Evolution, taking his powers even higher than Toppo, a God of Destruction candidate. But given this new information, with or without my headcanon, I'd say he is likely at least relative to MUI Goku, which makes him stronger than Jiren and Broly either way, but there's a reason I said at least. As I always do with these hypotheticals, here's a quantitative attempt at an answer: SSJ4 is commonly attributed a 10x boost on the prior max power (so SSJ3). I think it all just becomes too much for SSJ4 Gogeta to handle. He wasn't wrong, Beerus was definitely beyond Vegito, he was just also beyond SSG. Gogeta from super went to another dimension not gt gogeta. LB Jiren, while arguably stronger than MUI Goku, lost to MUI Goku due to Goku's skill in UI. Gogeta's new traits in Broly were a result of Akira Toriyama's attempt at adding him into the \"Dragon Ball canon\". First of all, Gogeta is stronger than MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren because Gogeta is made of Goku’s and Vegeta’s best traits and multiplies it by a lot so any power-up or transformation Goku or Vegeta gets is added to Gogeta. So, at minimum, Jiren, using just his glare and not struggling whatsoever whilst still heavily suppressed, is 400 times stronger than SSB/KKx20 Goku. So how could Gogeta possibly be weaker than Goku? Gt gogeta doesn't. now SSJ Broly was stated in the novel to be more powerful than anyone fought before him. I believe it was Seth The Programmer who broke down all the feats and statements in GT to show that SSJ4 is far superior to SSJ Vegito. Jun 4, 19 at 9:29am (PST) ^ re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue: quote John West. So if MUI/CUI Goku is "X amount" stronger than SSJB Goku in the last fight with Jiren, take that number and apply it to Goku in the Kefla fight, and see how a SSJB Kefla would scale to that. Share Tweet. The whole god-ki attaining process is still nebulous. I just can't take a statement from Goku after he's woken up from being knocked out by a character he can't even guage because Beerus uses divine Ki and a form he doesn't even know is real as definitive proof against multiple feats that fusion is a bigger multiplier than SSG. Gogeta from super went to another dimension not gt gogeta. Again, just to showcase things, we'll choose the barest minimum increase of 2x, making it 160,000 stronger than SSJ3 (and 80x stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta). User Info: MUIGogito. We don't know a numerical amount, I can easily see it being 100x, but for the sake of really showcasing how far ahead Super is to GT let's choose the bare minimum (40x) and only make SSJG 2x stronger than that. The Earth than it equal to SSJ4: quote John West Xenoverse 2:. Fusion is now stated as their combined powers multiplied `` tens '' of times than! 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